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Muffler question?? Which ones to get??
« on: April 24, 2009, 10:54:35 PM »

What mufflers do you guys recommend for a 331ci with a t70 turbo boosting 15 pds? Car has a 3 inch exhaust that converts to 2.5 with dual exhaust with the stainless steel pipes out back(wanted to keep the stock look) Currently have flowmasters(unsure if two or three chamber...but definitely not one chamber). I dont want it to be extremely loud but I feel that these mufflers are too restrictive. I want mufflers that are the least restrictive especially with all the back pressure these turbo setups see. Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2009, 11:10:44 PM »

i would go with a dynomax ultra flow. you dont want anything too restrictive
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2009, 11:14:14 PM »

i would go with a dynomax ultra flow. you dont want anything too restrictive

Thank you but what can having restrictive mufflers cause? Just curious.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2009, 03:49:50 AM »

Excessive backpressure, and slow spool, not to mention low HP numbers. I went with Borla Pro XS to keep it quiet, because they are straight through. I never notice before i took them to my exhaust shop, the inlet/outlet fitting are both 3", but right before it enters the muffler casing, it necks down to what looks like 2 1/4", total BS. I am going to be installing some ultra flo welded on the car. I think dynomax has a rebate on these mufflers till april 30th.

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2009, 05:00:59 AM »

I went with Borla Pro XS to keep it quiet, because they are straight through. I never notice before i took them to my exhaust shop, the inlet/outlet fitting are both 3", but right before it enters the muffler casing, it necks down to what looks like 2 1/4", total BS. \
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Yes I had the same on my 2 1/2" and 3" Borla's.  They are only 2 1/4" inside.

I bought a set of Magnaflow's.  They are VERY quite and are not restrictive.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2009, 04:36:49 PM »

I have a 331 t-76  and have Magnaflow's.  sounds stock idling
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2009, 10:33:41 PM »

  Here is what I am putting on mine, aluminum



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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 11:22:16 AM »

What about the dynomax ultraflow ss? I am trying to keep my stainless pipes out back for a more stock look. They show  that they have a straight pipe inside the muffler to minimize restriction. Anyone using them?
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2009, 11:38:09 AM »

XJHEAD, who makes those?  Any idea how loud they will be?
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2009, 11:59:17 AM »

What about the dynomax ultraflow ss? I am trying to keep my stainless pipes out back for a more stock look. They show  that they have a straight pipe inside the muffler to minimize restriction. Anyone using them?
  Here are my Welded Steel Ultra-flows on my motor

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1995-Cobra-Mustang-427W_131776.htm

XJHEAD, who makes those?  Any idea how loud they will be?

  A friend and myself made them up.  I will be putting the motor back in a different car in the next couple weeks.  I just welded up some V-Bands on them last night.  I'll take vids. with them on and off,  I amcurious on how they will sound too.  I already have guys asking me to build them. 

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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2009, 01:26:13 PM »

I have the ultra flow 3" round mufflers. I love them. They sound mean and yet not to loud. They are dumped before the rear axle.
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2009, 04:19:53 PM »

XJHEAD, who makes those?  Any idea how loud they will be?

There is also a site that lists them for sale, but i am unable to find it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2009, 04:33:19 PM »

There is also a site that lists them for sale, but i am unable to find it.

  I couldn't find anything in AL.  that is why I made my own.  We are welding the last bracket up as I type.   welder
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2009, 04:51:27 PM »

  I couldn't find anything in AL.  that is why I made my own.  We are welding the last bracket up as I type.   welder

Yes i take that back, it was your thread on yellow bullet that i saw and mistook for a shop selling them Doh!

and there are shorty 5 inchers for sale
http://www.behindbarsracecars.com/turbo.html
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2009, 06:51:56 PM »

I just put the oval magnaflows on mine and its not much louder than stock now. I tried the dynomax race bullets (way to loud and popped bad), mac flowpaths (sounded like shit), and even tried my trusty 40 series flowmasters i had laying around (popped bad and sounded like crunching tin cans). The magnaflow oval mufflers sound great and are a straight thru design so they help with turbos and exhaust flow. I used part number 11236 and they are great.
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2009, 08:49:17 PM »

You got a vid with them you could post up? Thanks
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2009, 07:42:52 AM »

Magnaflow!!  IF you ever heard my car you would never think it is 7 second capable i promise!
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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2009, 02:18:16 PM »

These are all stainless, and quieter than Magnaflows.  I have them on my car with a big solid roller.  You can stand next to the car and have a conversation at normal conversational volume. 

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=borla+xs&N=700+4294922710+4294791977+4294791976+115+4294904125&Ntk=KeywordSearch
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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2009, 02:23:13 PM »

These are all stainless, and quieter than Magnaflows.  I have them on my car with a big solid roller.  You can stand next to the car and have a conversation at normal conversational volume. 

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=borla+xs&N=700+4294922710+4294791977+4294791976+115+4294904125&Ntk=KeywordSearch

Those are the same i have on my car, granted they are very quiet, but they are only 2 1/4" inside, the inlet/outlet are the only part 3" about them. Take a look right where the inlet starts to go into the casing...

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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2009, 02:47:44 PM »

Those are the same i have on my car, granted they are very quiet, but they are only 2 1/4" inside, the inlet/outlet are the only part 3" about them. Take a look right where the inlet starts to go into the casing...

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I bought a set of these when i had the Procharger .   Never put them on because of the inside diameter .

They are still sitting in the garage untouched , still in the boxes . 

I'll sell them if you want them .   $ 60 each .

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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2009, 07:41:31 PM »

Those are the same i have on my car, granted they are very quiet, but they are only 2 1/4" inside, the inlet/outlet are the only part 3" about them. Take a look right where the inlet starts to go into the casing...

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I know, but people worry about what they are looking at too much IMO.  I called Borla before I put them on and they said that the inside surface area of the muffler was more than the 3 inch opening diameter, so they would not pose a restriction.  I put them on.  So far, on only 15lbs boost I've gone 5.80's at 125 MPH in the 8th, so they don't seem to be a problem.  I have one of the queitest faster cars at the track when I go.
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« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2009, 09:51:50 AM »

http://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/119518-muffler-flow-db-comparison-hooker-maxflow-bassani-real-street.html
Maybe this will help. I know this test isn't on a turbo setup but still shows a valid comparison of power and sound.
Notice the borla xs is still middle/upper part of the pack on power, and also number one for quitest. Some people can sacrifice a couple hp for the stealth.
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« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2009, 12:54:01 PM »

I know, but people worry about what they are looking at too much IMO.  I called Borla before I put them on and they said that the inside surface area of the muffler was more than the 3 inch opening diameter, so they would not pose a restriction.  I put them on.  So far, on only 15lbs boost I've gone 5.80's at 125 MPH in the 8th, so they don't seem to be a problem.  I have one of the queitest faster cars at the track when I go.

I spoke to them too . their explanation was there is less surface area than a 3" tube .   

They are of course comparing a 2 1/4 tube with a gazillion holes drilled in it , to a 3" tube with no holes drilled in it .

So yes it has less surface area , but the oppening is still 2 1/4 .



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