Knowledge Base | Turbo Kits | Featured Cars | More Info | Multimedia | Links | Project Cars | Store

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
July 29, 2010, 04:46:38 AM

Login with username, password and session length
 
If you need any parts or service start here: Sponsors List. > > Order TheTurboForums.com Stuff
1169232 Posts in 106067 Topics by 24609 Members
Latest Member: vitamin
* Home Help Rules Search Calendar Login Register
TheTurboForums  |  Vehicle/Engine Specific Tech Sections  |  The Modular Forum (Moderator: 99TTGT)  |  Topic: How many rpm can I turn with this motor? « previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?  (Read 679 times)
5.0rx7
Non Seller
Non Seller

Offline Offline

Posts: 35

Location:
0


View Profile WWW
How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« on: September 10, 2009, 01:16:05 PM »

Sounds like a dumb question, but just currious.with old short block we shifted at 7500rpm.
The car lives on C16 gas now along with better shortblock

4.6
manley billet rods
10.5.1 compression
fr500 cams, valves and springs
ported 03 cobra heads

So anyone with this combo?And how many rpms are u turning?
Logged
99TTGT
Modular
Global Moderator
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3868


Location: DFW

View Profile
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2009, 03:48:02 PM »

Duration: 212/208
LCs: 109

The Intake opening event @.050 is 3deg ATDC
The Intake closing event @.050 is 35 deg ABDC

The Exhaust opening event @.050 is 33 deg BBDC
The Intake closing event @.050 is 5 deg BTDC

have you look at you cams specs?
have you run it on the dyno & see were it makes  power?

That will tell you were you should rev it to.
It don't matter the fuel that you use, if the heads are ported or the rods that you use to built the motor ...
« Last Edit: September 10, 2009, 03:57:49 PM by 99TTGT » Logged

babysitting turboland...
5.0rx7
Non Seller
Non Seller

Offline Offline

Posts: 35

Location:
0


View Profile WWW
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2009, 04:19:36 PM »

I know its dont matter if the heads or ported or fuel type.I was just letting people know what were using. The old motor was only spun to 7500rpm because it had h-beam rods.But alot of things have changed now, more compression,twin T4 76mm turbos,rosseler th400,neil chance convertor,etc. Old setup with 61mm t3/t4 made 1060 through a lentech, 1172 with 6 speed both on 30 psi, and 15 degrees of timing.
Logged
99TTGT
Modular
Global Moderator
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3868


Location: DFW

View Profile
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2009, 04:33:34 PM »

I know its dont matter if the heads or ported or fuel type.I was just letting people know what were using. The old motor was only spun to 7500rpm because it had h-beam rods.But alot of things have changed now, more compression,twin T4 76mm turbos,rossler th400,neil chance converter,etc. Old setup with 61mm t3/t4 made 1060 through a lentech, 1172 with 6 speed both on 30 psi, and 15 degrees of timing.
Gotcha.
We have run h beams up to 8000rpm with no issues.
That is amazing I never seen a twin T4's 61's setup make that much power threw an Auto.<glide, lentech,T400,C4>
I seen them make about 1100 threw a 6speed but never threw an Auto & we have Dyno Lot's of them...

  I have run both setups, even run twin t4's billet 67's @ 33psi
And also tested twin T4's billet 76's @ 31psi
Men can you post some pics of that BEAST & the race car, maybe some videos?
That thing got to be a monster.!
What it runs?
Are you doing all that with the stock ECU?
What meter are you ussing?
What type of converter is it, bolt together or the new billet one?
what type of springs are you running stock FR500's?
Who is tunning it?
« Last Edit: September 10, 2009, 04:40:50 PM by 99TTGT » Logged

babysitting turboland...
turbomike76
Classified Viewers
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 367


Location: louisiana

View Profile
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2009, 04:41:06 PM »

Gotcha.
We have run h beams up to 8200rpm with no issues.
That is amazing I never seen a twin T4's 61's setup make that much power threw an Auto.<glide, lentech,T400,C4>
I seen them make about 1100 threw a 6speed but never threw an Auto & we have Dyno Lot's of them...

  I have run both setups, even run twin t4's billet 67's @ 33psi
And also tested twin T4's billet 76's @ 31psi
Men can you post some pics of that BEAST & the race car, maybe some videos?
That thing got to be a monster.!
What it runs?
Are you doing all that with the stock ECU?
What meter are you ussing?
What type of converter is it, bolt together or the new billet one?
what type of springs are you running stock FR500's?


holly shit...i must see this thing.post videos or be baned...lol  Bow down Bow down
Logged

300 c stock 5.7 hemi
 2000 turbo saleen.  575 rwhp
    10.99 at 126mph
99TTGT
Modular
Global Moderator
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3868


Location: DFW

View Profile
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2009, 04:49:25 PM »

lol.!
2009 Glide 160lbs  1st pull  testing 67's / 76's...
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/99TTGT-23psi_682908.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2007 pump gas 83lbs running out of injectors 1st pull out of 3
 http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=22131385
« Last Edit: September 10, 2009, 04:58:25 PM by 99TTGT » Logged

babysitting turboland...
turbomike76
Classified Viewers
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 367


Location: louisiana

View Profile
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2009, 05:22:21 PM »

I know its dont matter if the heads or ported or fuel type.I was just letting people know what were using. The old motor was only spun to 7500rpm because it had h-beam rods.But alot of things have changed now, more compression,twin T4 76mm turbos,rosseler th400,neil chance convertor,etc. Old setup with 61mm t3/t4 made 1060 through a lentech, 1172 with 6 speed both on 30 psi, and 15 degrees of timing.
Are u sure???? Man I would love to see this thing on the dyno. I have an auto and only made757 rwhp with 61mm turbos..
Logged

300 c stock 5.7 hemi
 2000 turbo saleen.  575 rwhp
    10.99 at 126mph
5.0rx7
Non Seller
Non Seller

Offline Offline

Posts: 35

Location:
0


View Profile WWW
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 06:54:23 PM »

Are u sure???? Man I would love to see this thing on the dyno. I have an auto and only made757 rwhp with 61mm turbos..

They are not off the shelve 61mm!The biggest 61mm that fit in a t3 exhaust housing.
Logged
5.0rx7
Non Seller
Non Seller

Offline Offline

Posts: 35

Location:
0


View Profile WWW
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2009, 06:56:44 PM »

lol.!
2009 Glide 160lbs  1st pull  testing 67's / 76's...
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/99TTGT-23psi_682908.htm
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2007 pump gas 83lbs running out of injectors 1st pull out of 3
 http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=22131385

I the first video with 76mm turbo? if so how hard was it to get spooled up?When talking to Marty Chance on the convertor he said we had to have dual rear brakes and a 3 step to get this thing to spool!!LOL (this car fast xfi)
Logged
99TTGT
Modular
Global Moderator
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3868


Location: DFW

View Profile
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2009, 09:02:42 PM »

I the first video with 76mm turbo? if so how hard was it to get spooled up?When talking to Marty Chance on the convertor he said we had to have dual rear brakes and a 3 step to get this thing to spool!!LOL (this car fast xfi)
1st video are twin billet 67's in the first 5 runs.
 <the 67's at the track were fair to spool, but nothing near the twin 61's>
On the other 9 runs not on the video we were testing twin billet 76's out of a costumers car
<to get those spool at the track, that was a mission>
2nd video are twin 61's ,running out of fuel<the biggest 61's that you can run on aT4 housing>lol
I run a classic F.A.S.T with MSD dizzy setup & msd 3 step with Aerospace manual  brakes...<glide>


ps# once the trans brake is on, the brakes are not working that hard
been there done that,now testing every other possible way...lol  Two Thumbs Up!
« Last Edit: September 11, 2009, 08:12:31 AM by 99TTGT » Logged

babysitting turboland...
RaceFink
Newbie

Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 130


Location: Germany
l


View Profile WWW
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 09:43:02 AM »

Hello,

I have FR500 cams too that I will use for turbo.
How you set the timing of the cams?

Thanks Udo
Logged

there is a substitude for cui  http://granata.blogger.de/
5.0rx7
Non Seller
Non Seller

Offline Offline

Posts: 35

Location:
0


View Profile WWW
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2009, 05:53:26 PM »

Cams have always been setup as recomended.
Logged
99TTGT
Modular
Global Moderator
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 3868


Location: DFW

View Profile
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2009, 01:00:14 PM »

Hello,

I have FR500 cams too that I will use for turbo.
How you set the timing of the cams?

Thanks Udo
here you go:
Ford OEM way, line the dots
Logged

babysitting turboland...
trueblue02
Classified Viewers
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 232


Location:

View Profile
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2009, 03:35:02 PM »

had a guy around here with ford gt cams and 91mm. spin his to 9k made 1200 at the wheels with more in it
Logged

"how fast will she run", "that depends on whos around"
RaceFink
Newbie

Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 130


Location: Germany
l


View Profile WWW
Re: How many rpm can I turn with this motor?
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2009, 11:08:53 PM »

Hello,

thanks for answer. I just thinking to get FR500 cams little less overlap.
But I will now install at the specs and maybe we can adjust on dyno an see results.

Udo
Logged

there is a substitude for cui  http://granata.blogger.de/
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
TheTurboForums  |  Vehicle/Engine Specific Tech Sections  |  The Modular Forum (Moderator: 99TTGT)  |  Topic: How many rpm can I turn with this motor? « previous next »
Jump to:  

Turbomustangs.com theme by My Sack
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.11 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.107 seconds with 21 queries.