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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2009, 03:11:15 AM »

Also had oil seeping out of the breathers where they're pressed together.


If your going to use the Moroso breather with the electric pump , you will want to JB weld the area where they are pressed together .  And around the nipple .

You will also want to seal the other valve cover when running the electric pump .   If everything is sealed up right it should sound like this :


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when I shut the motor down it had pressure in the crankcase. I'm guessing it's working the wrong way.

Check balls are probably bad .    I had the same problem running the Moroso set up . 


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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2009, 03:35:36 AM »

^^^You will if you go to bone yard and a electric vacume pump off of a mustang/lincoln like Blown385 has got on is truck that thing works great!!
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2009, 05:11:51 AM »

Where on the lincoln would it be?  I could definitely give this a try.
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2009, 05:26:03 AM »

I did some experimenting w/ stock ford smog pumps a while ago. My old combo was being shifted at 7500 and I paid no mind to pump speed. Pump worked great, just ran it too fast. I'm trying a pump from an 80s Escort now, w/a Moroso pulley to slow it down. The GZ Motorsport  pumps are reworked Ford ones w/ vanes that are oil resistant.

I made up the brackets from crap I had laying around:


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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2009, 05:42:50 AM »

I believe the pumps in the inner fender on the mustangs not sure on the Lincolns
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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2009, 08:53:15 AM »

I believe the pumps in the inner fender on the mustangs not sure on the Lincolns
Don't think I'm going to find a cobra in a local yard, need some more info on the Lincolns:)  That's something I can test right there in the yard with my little battery.
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« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2009, 07:54:02 PM »

1999 and up ford tarsus has them and it looks just like the pump of the cobra
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« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2009, 08:54:47 PM »


If your going to use the Moroso breather with the electric pump , you will want to JB weld the area where they are pressed together .  And around the nipple .

You will also want to seal the other valve cover when running the electric pump .   If everything is sealed up right it should sound like this :


http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s152/cedoz/?action=view&current=vacuum-Clip002.flv

Check balls are probably bad .    I had the same problem running the Moroso set up . 





Breathers just have something that looks like wadded up stainless mesh in the top and the bottom has what looks like a separator. Would the check ball be in the part that screws into the downpipe? I might try pulling it off and hooking the tube to the downpipe directly until I can come across another check valve. That piece is hard to blow thru going either direction.
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Re: Poor man's vacuum pump
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2009, 03:10:08 AM »

Where are they located in the car?
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1999 and up ford tarsus has them and it looks just like the pump of the cobra
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« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2009, 03:29:28 AM »


Breathers just have something that looks like wadded up stainless mesh in the top and the bottom has what looks like a separator. Would the check ball be in the part that screws into the downpipe? I might try pulling it off and hooking the tube to the downpipe directly until I can come across another check valve. That piece is hard to blow thru going either direction.

Check balls are in the part at the down pipe .   If there is no check ball , or if they are hooked up without them , it will pressurize the crank case and you will probably have oil everywhere .


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« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2009, 03:48:50 AM »

^Those check balls blow out all the time. I went through 2 in each header before I made the switch to the electric pump...no issues from then on.
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« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2009, 09:09:11 AM »

Grrr... Figures something would be wrong with it. I'm getting oil everywhere right now as it is. I might drop by the 2nd hand shop again and see if I can pick me up another one for $5. Sould it freely flow in 1 direction when you blow into it? This one would barely flow 1 way but I had to blow pretty damn hard to get the air to move.
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« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2009, 10:44:04 AM »

Where are they located in the car?
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Drivers side under the anit lock brake system pretty sure, its near the bottom of the engine
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Re: Poor man's vacuum pump
« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2009, 01:17:09 PM »

I did some experimenting w/ stock ford smog pumps a while ago. My old combo was being shifted at 7500 and I paid no mind to pump speed. Pump worked great, just ran it too fast. I'm trying a pump from an 80s Escort now, w/a Moroso pulley to slow it down. The GZ Motorsport  pumps are reworked Ford ones w/ vanes that are oil resistant.


Thanks for the tip.  I am going to give an Escort pump a try.  It would have to reliably pull more vacuum than an electric pump. 
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Re: Poor man's vacuum pump
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2009, 11:12:31 AM »

is anyone using the GM vac pumps?
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