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the great debate. which tranny to run
« on: February 07, 2010, 12:06:41 PM »

well ive come to cross roads on which tranny to run. mild built 351w twin hx40 turbos. horsepower range is going to be ballparked around 500.  im looking for a budget tranny to build. i belong to a car club and take highways to many car shows.  so keep that in mind also i want manual valvebodies and a transbrake. my gearing in the rearend was geard for taller tires then what i have now so im going to need a new set 410s are a little pushy on the street. but with my t5 and old tire combo they were ok. so im looking for ideas on a tranny and if any sugestions on a converter throw them out there.         the car sees mostly street action and a couple summer runs at the track.  Grin
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Re: the great debate. which tranny to run
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2010, 01:29:28 PM »

for that power level and amount of street driving, a built aod is probably what i would look into.
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Re: the great debate. which tranny to run
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2010, 02:53:52 PM »

Is there any other choice than a c4 when the word "budget" is thrown around....especially considering the need for a MVB and Transbrake?

Any way you cut it, you need to swap those 4.10's out for at-least a 3.55 (if you plan on running a 28" tire).  Not only are they (the 4.10's) going to slow you down, but they'll limit you in the 1/4 mile as you'll be running out of RPM.  If your running 26" tires you need to swap out to 3.27's.

Of course, you could always pick up a cheap 4r70w...slap a uber expensive MVB on it and still be a budget build.  You would have to hold off on buying a "nice" converter for the time being....but good things come to those who wait.
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 07:23:13 AM »

yeah the gears i know have to go. thats a given. i cant find a 4r70w anyy where around  where i live. i had a deal on a built c4 for 1500 but its a c4 i almost was dead set on picking it up but  my gut says stay away.  its come down to a aod or a 4r70w.
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 07:39:39 AM »

yeah the gears i know have to go. thats a given. i cant find a 4r70w anyy where around  where i live. i had a deal on a built c4 for 1500 but its a c4 i almost was dead set on picking it up but  my gut says stay away.  its come down to a aod or a 4r70w.

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 07:43:11 AM »

i found a  AOD one of my budies has that i can get for nothing. i heard that with them  you have to go from 1st to 2nd right back to first to keep it in 2nd gear but i dont wana have to do that. so i found this http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/PAI-53301H/86-93-Ford-Mustang-Aod-Hold-Valve-Body  anyone had luck with it?  i want to run that valve bodie with a hammer ratchet shifter
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 07:53:34 AM »

i found a  AOD one of my budies has that i can get for nothing. i heard that with them  you have to go from 1st to 2nd right back to first to keep it in 2nd gear but i dont wana have to do that. so i found this http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/item/PAI-53301H/86-93-Ford-Mustang-Aod-Hold-Valve-Body  anyone had luck with it?  i want to run that valve bodie with a hammer ratchet shifter

You can also do the "epoxy" mod as shown here.... http://www.clickclickracing.com/forums/showthread.php?2817-AOD-1-2-3-4-Shift-Pattern-(EPOXY-Mod) which will eliminate the 1-D-1 shuffle.  Be sure to browse that website as there is a TON if info.
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Re: the great debate. which tranny to run
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 08:10:08 AM »

hm ill have to play with my computer i cant see pictures of the steps.  that would save me 280 bucks lol   
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2010, 08:14:28 AM »

im gona try that with the hammer ratchet shifter and see what happens.
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Re: the great debate. which tranny to run
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2010, 09:59:34 AM »

Go to lentech's web site.  There is an article on why the 1 D 1 shuffle is hard on the trans and some info on the mod.  Click-Click web site is a good place for AOD, AODe and 4r70w.  There is some good info on TCCoA too.
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