Tested out some Octane booster...

[Brian G.]

Octane booster from what I've read is just glorified paint thinner.

I also found that toulene one on the net somewhere, but it had a disclaimer.  The stuff could do more damage then good so that ones a use at your own perill.

Though a booster thats actually safe on stuff would definitely be worth more money.

[fast4d]

that torco stuff seems like a good thing to have for emergencies. I'll continue buying 100 octane for $4/gal from a nearby pump.

[boostfed]

They did a spot on that torco fuel additive in race pages (NMRA mag) from a year ago. IIRC they tested it on a fox body coupe with a small inch 302 (a 302 or a 306 incher) with an R-trim vortech at 17 psi, non intercooled, 8.5:1 static compression. It made 660 RWHP on 93 octane + torco additive and made the same power as it did on 110 or 112 octane. I have a giant stack of old magazines and shit like that so i'll go digging for it later today and try and get a friend to scan it.

[TURBODADDY]

Originally posted by TURBODADDY
Could you give me any info,where I could order some of that stuff? and it will really turn that many gallons of 93 into 116? I just bought a 50 gal drum of c16 for $435.00,here at a local shop:(

[fast4d]

I could have sworn I bought torco octane boost at pep boys 3-4 years ago.

[AlexP]

does anyone know of any distributors for torco in the houston area , or pumps in the houston area that sell high octane gas ?

[Saleen91]

Andre Terranova with the Houston Area Lightning Owners (http://www.haloclub.com) is a dealer for it and that's who I got my 5 gallon can from.

[ronlp]

Originally posted by NeedaTurbo
There's a place that sells 95 octane around here, ahhh, I love the south  
 

I always thought you 'good ole' boys' just brew your own fuel back in the woods and drink whatever's left over?. :confused:

Anyway, debates on boosters have been going on for over 20 years....rememeber when "104+" came out? I look at it this way: regardless of alleged 'scientific proof', if you can take a turbo car out with shit gas that would normally detonate at a given psi and it doesn't, it must be doing something worthwhile.

[Lordviper13]

Originally posted by turbo54
I am currently waiting on a 55 gallon drum of TEL (thats Tetra-Ethyl Lead) to clear customs.  I've imported it from China.

The cost of the drum was $700.  It should turn about 2500 gallons of 93 into 116.

Oh I bet the EPA just loves you, well if you do get it at least it will knock up the octane and it will make your exhaust valves and seats live a long happy life

[turbo54]

Originally posted by Lordviper13
Oh I bet the EPA just loves you, well if you do get it at least it will knock up the octane and it will make your exhaust valves and seats live a long happy life

Yeah, I'm sure they love the idea of me pumping lead into the atmosphere...

Oh well, most race gas is leaded, and nearly all av-gas is leaded.

[Lordviper13]

don't care to sell a couple gallons do you

[turbo54]

Probably...  I don't think I'm going to need 2500 gallons of race gas!

I don't have it yet though.  Theres actually been a bit of red-tape to go through to get it and I've been waiting for a while!

I'll update everyone on it once I've got it though.

[Turbo351]

Anyone using Amsoil Octane Booster?  I have a friend using it in his supercharged mustang and he says it works.  It is a leaded additive.

http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/octane_boost.htm

[TURBODADDY]

Originally posted by turbo54
Probably...  I don't think I'm going to need 2500 gallons of race gas!

I don't have it yet though.  Theres actually been a bit of red-tape to go through to get it and I've been waiting for a while!

I'll update everyone on it once I've got it though.

I guess I will never find out how to get some of that stuff:(

[turbo54]

I'm getting mine through echina chem.  Its an online forum for matching merchants and customers for chemicals.

[TURBODADDY]

Thanks....

[slammedm5]

I would like to get some where do you purchase it at? Sounds risky but could work

[Lordviper13]

risky to get or risky for the motor, TEL will work great for octane reasons and also coats your exhaust valves and cushions the seat. good luck wondering in to a store and buying it though

TEL is a hazardous and there for tightly regulated substance

and no lead substitute won't work the same

[Rob_M]

If they do, that would be the cheapest way to pick up a few points.

E85 is 85% ethanol, 15% gasoline, and I think the gov subsidises (SP)? it so it's about the price of gasoline.  

Like arm said, 10% ethanol will give you over 2 1/2 points, so if you run 12% E85
you'll turn your 91 octane gas into 93.5+.

[Lordviper13]

most of us need more than a couple points, that is why I always ran my nitrous systems a a seperate 1 gallon with some C16

[mitchwolos]

Originally posted by A.R.M
Unless things have changed recently I doubt any octane booster you buy from the store are going to give you any sucessfull results. Usually they raise the octane 'points' i.e. from 92 to 92.3. However there are a couple of formulas for octane boosting with common solvents.

Toulene
R+M/2...114
cost...?
Ratio's with 92-
10% 94.2 Octane
20% 96.4 Octane
30% 98.6 Octane
...Dont use over 30 percent mix

Xylene
R+M/2...117
Cost...$6-8 gal
Ratio's with 92-
10% 94.5 Octane
20% 97.0 Octane
30% 99.5 Octane
...Dont use over 30 percent mix

Methyl-tertiary-butyl-ether (MTBE)
R+M/2...118
Cost...?
Ratio's with 92-
10% 94.6 Octane
20% 97.2 Octane
30% 99.8 Octane
...Dont use over 30 percent mix

Methanol or Ethanol
R+M/2...101
Cost...?
Ratio's with 92-
10% 94.3 Octane (meth)
10% 94.7 Octane (ethanol)
20% Not recomended, will eat rubber, linings, and aluminum if used in excessive ratio's.

What would you guys do with out DSMers

DSM guys?

that post has seen every message board many times, and i saw it on a GN?t-type website like 4 years ago

[Trentk]

I was down at Beau's shop so I snapped a few pics of the torco since some people were asking me which color can I was using.

[RICE ETR]

Beau's got a great business going... HIGHLY recommend them!

Why not use methanol/water injection?

bingo... a friend of mine tried the Torco, seemed to work but then again, with all additives, you have to keep track of your mixture constantly and you are still burning it just putting around town.

I run straight methanol and have never looked back.... I pump 93 into my tank, that's what I burn during normal driving.. then when I stomp it I get the meth. I was told I can run as much boost/timing with it and 93 as I could with straight 104... dunno if that's true or not but right now I am running 11-12psi, 93 octane, 10.1:1 compression. Just can't beat the added cooling either.

Anyways... good info in this thread for sure... just had to put my $.02 in.

[rtz]

Anyone have a Sunoco station nearby?  Some of them sell 100 unleaded at the pump.  Here's a list of the stations:

http://www.racegas.com/gt100locals/default.asp

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This thread is awesome! ("search" works so well)

TTT for the guys spending the big $$$$ for race gas...