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« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2004, 05:36:52 AM »

From what I hear, there are 2 companies currently working on being able to do just that. Turbos WILL be the power adder of choice!
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« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2004, 05:51:37 AM »

Yeah, I have heard of companies trying to do that many times in the past
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« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2004, 01:47:11 PM »

I bought an engine from my friend Chris, who had Brad build it for him.

Chris paid $1000 to have the engine built for him, and got a used engine.

It was supposed to have:

ARP bolts throughout
shotpeened crank & rods
low compression pistons
file fit rings
windage tray
oil pump

He bought a turbo kit from Brad, and split his stock block within a few days.  He asked Brad to build him another shortblock, and wanted all the stuff listed above done to it.  He lost interest in the project, and sold everything, including the engine to me.

When I got it, I was planning on throwing a S-trim on it, so I was happy about everything that was done to it.

It sat on a crate at my house for a few weeks before I could take a look at it, and when I finally did take a look at it, this is what I found






The engine had oil caked all over the bottom of the block, and the rings and crank that were in there were all scratched up.  The pistons were stock pistons, as well as the crank.  There weren't ANY ARP bolts on it, there was no oil pump, and there was no windage tray.

When I took the pistons out, it had a fresh bore on it, but nevertheless, it was a USED engine.  

When I asked Chris about it, he said he paid for all the shit listed above, and would have been pissed if he used the engine, cause he trusted that Brad put it together correctly, and that he figured it would take the abuse he was gonna give it with a T76.

When I asked Brad about it, he put it all on Chris, and said that Chris asked for a "budget engine" and that the engine was rebuilt when in fact, it was not.

I now know who the liar was :mad:
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« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2004, 12:37:28 PM »

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I bought an engine from my friend Chris, who had Brad build it for him.

Chris paid $1000 to have the engine built for him, and got a used engine.

It was supposed to have:

ARP bolts throughout
shotpeened crank & rods
low compression pistons
file fit rings
windage tray
oil pump

He bought a turbo kit from Brad, and split his stock block within a few days.  He asked Brad to build him another shortblock, and wanted all the stuff listed above done to it.  He lost interest in the project, and sold everything, including the engine to me.

When I got it, I was planning on throwing a S-trim on it, so I was happy about everything that was done to it.

It sat on a crate at my house for a few weeks before I could take a look at it, and when I finally did take a look at it, this is what I found






The engine had oil caked all over the bottom of the block, and the rings and crank that were in there were all scratched up.  The pistons were stock pistons, as well as the crank.  There weren't ANY ARP bolts on it, there was no oil pump, and there was no windage tray.

When I took the pistons out, it had a fresh bore on it, but nevertheless, it was a USED engine.  

When I asked Chris about it, he said he paid for all the shit listed above, and would have been pissed if he used the engine, cause he trusted that Brad put it together correctly, and that he figured it would take the abuse he was gonna give it with a T76.

When I asked Brad about it, he put it all on Chris, and said that Chris asked for a "budget engine" and that the engine was rebuilt when in fact, it was not.

I now know who the liar was :mad:



just got an e-mail last night saying:

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originally posted by Brad

If you would like to know what Chris bought from me for the engine you have,
send me your email and I will gladly email you the invoice for his engine that I
sent him.  This is what he got and paid for.  Don't know what you were told or
why but sounds to me like you were misled.  My company made many mistakes and
they all ended up on my shoulders.  This is why I closed it.  That engine was
never supposed to have any aftermarket pistons or rods as the invoice shows.
Just thought I would give you my .02$.   By the way, last I heard, he had used
the engine or so I thought.  He wanted the absolute cheapest thing I could give
him since the car was broke and he didn't have the money to buy a good
shortblock.  I know a lot of people got wronged by my company and I wish I could
do something to make it right but I can't now.  I don't like however seeing
someone I did a favor for try to make me look bad by saying I didn't give what
they paid for.  Not a flame email at all, just frustrating.

The items are as follows,
clevite rod bearings
clevite main bearings
cloyes HD roller timiing chain
Melling HV oil  pump
file fit rings
used shortblock with stock rods and 89 forged pistons
assembly
shipping



I know for a fact that Chris didn't use his engine, since his whole car was taken apart by the time the engine arrived.  

What's funny, is when I first got the engine I asked him about the engine, and this was his response:

"If I remember right, it was a basically stock block with forged stock pistons with file fit rings and new bearings.  It has ARP main bolts I believe.  His ticked is not on this computer system any more and as such I don't have any info on what was in it."

Yeah right, like now that everyone is having problems with him, he can magically come up with an invoice rolleyes

Sorry to air this out here Brad, but you havn't been honest to anyone, so I can't believe anything you say
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« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2004, 02:42:41 PM »

He delivered everything he was supposed to for me. He installed and his employees trailered my car from my house down to him and trailered it back. Car Ran perfect. Few little tuning issues but other than that it was fine. Others on here changed their view to join some sort of bandwagon on here. When they got kit and installed were happy but later on after reading other posts I think they decided to find little things to nit pick about. Brad was always straight with me and even worked with me on prices. The only thing he is guilty of was slower production than originally quoted but you must remember he is not running a full scale manufacturing company like vortech or paxton. If you wanted a off the shelf package I think you should go supercharger or N20. I have not ONCE seen a single company that offers turbo kits that did not have customers with gripes about one thing or another. Do not get me wrong if you did business with him and he did screw you in some way than I do feel sorry for you but for anybody posting on here that have not dealt with him I think you shoud stay out and keep your .02 to yourself. The reason for this post is not to make excuses for brad but rather show others that he did not do wrong to everyone and the ones that he did right should come forward as well to show that these were isolated occurances not a regular thing for the duration of his companies existance.

MY .02 as a customer and proud owner of a Turbolocity Kit from Brad.
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« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2004, 04:02:35 PM »

So who decided to start nit picking?  I can think of two people(Chris and Pete) who always had issues but just never aired them or even eluded to them on forums until "the shit hit the fan" for others.  I know there are others, I have a couple of PMs still in my box from people who had huger engine problems with brand new engines they bought from there.  Seems there is a higher precentage of problems than not.
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« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2004, 04:57:09 PM »

All I have to say is that Brad F***** me real bad.  I spent more money to fix all the problems than the kit cost.  I could go on for pages with all of the things he did not do or how he destroyed my car.  He kept saying that he would pay for the repairs but I have not seen any money yet.  I even asked him to pay just $50 a month to show me he was serious.  Not one dime yet.

All I can say is that I am happy that he is out of business so he can't screw anyone else.

You might be right about some people changing there story but I can tell you that Brad was very good at getting people to be quite about there problems.  He would always tell me that if I bash him on the web he could not continue his business and pay me back for the damage.  I know that I did not post too much until I finally realized I was never going to get anything from this a$$ and I think that is what most of the others did.
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« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2004, 11:03:49 PM »

From: "Gretchen Edington"
To: "jon w"
Subject: Re: Re:
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 08:53:49 -0500

We have not been at that address for over a year.  I received your
chargeback response today.  $1600 for a turbo?   Try $450.  We do not accept
refunds on special order items.  The Total Performance business address is
no more.  It has been closed.
Brad & Gretchen Edington
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Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:36 AM
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everything you have sent me is on its way back to 1513 factory street if
that is no longer total performance's address then i need a address these
items can be sent to


From: "Gretchen Edington"
To: "jon w"
Subject: Re: Re:
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:39:12 -0500

What stuff?  Total Performance is currently closed.  It will not be
taking
any more cars or orders until furthur notice.  I will be sending you the
refund for your missing turbo and injectors and shipping you the chip.
At
this time, I am only finishing the cars I have here and then that's it.
Brad & Gretchen Edington
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http://www.nothingbutperformance.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "jon w"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:44 AM
Subject: Re: Re:


where do i send your stuff


From: "Gretchen Edington"
To: "jon w"
Subject: Re: Re:
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 10:20:06 -0500

No, we are currently still moving.
Brad & Gretchen Edington
Total Performance
http://www.nothingbutperformance.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "jon w" occmustang@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Re:

Is your address still the same?


From: "Gretchen Edington"
To: "jon w" occmustang@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re:
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:09:48 -0500

Jon,
I can either send you a refund via your credit card or check for the items on backorder.  That is the best I can do.  I am still waiting on a merchant
account activation at this point.  Your comments are not needed and
unprofessional.  I want to get this matter behind us and since the parts
availability is a problem, I will happily refund the amount of the missing
parts for you.  Company policy is no refunds on special ordered items and
turbo kits.  Please let me know which type you would like.
Thanks.
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« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2004, 07:27:03 PM »

I have the install directions he sent me.....   I need some help though.....  I bought my total performance kit used and still got screwed but not by brad lol....  I need info on the brake lines, if someone could give me the specs on them I can have the made locally....

Here is the instructions   directions

Maybe we could help each other out
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« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2004, 07:28:17 PM »

oh yea I also need any ideas to mount the intercooler with out the core support (yea didnt get that either)
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« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2004, 01:01:48 AM »

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oh yea I also need any ideas to mount the intercooler with out the core support (yea didnt get that either)


i have one from a 99gt. if you need it, then maybe i could trade you for your stock piece?  

i guess just send me a pm or email.
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« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2004, 03:42:07 PM »

Update OCC? Smiley
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« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2004, 12:27:11 PM »

Just a quick update.

The company went bank rupt and everything was lost. The place they were staying in was next door to his father. His dad gave him the land and it was placed in the business's name. It was lost when the business went bankrupt.

He is now living on the east side of Henning Road, just north of 2650 N Rd. That I think he Father bought for him.  

There are still a couple cars around there, I know there is a SN Cobra there and looked like a new White GT sitting outside.

Hope this gives you all a little insight on his residence and the business.
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« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2004, 12:29:20 PM »

From what I remember that white cobra belongs to someone who is in the military and over seas, the white gt belonged to someone who sometimes gets on these boards.  I think his name was Tony, I sold him a couple of parts that I had for my car when it was up that way.
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« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2004, 12:32:38 PM »

Aaron,

You had the green 87-93 car correct?


Now that you said that about the White Cobra, its suppose to be a buddies of his.

Just a shame, he was sitting on a Gold mine.
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« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2004, 12:34:45 PM »

bad_356? Who are you?
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« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2004, 12:37:30 PM »

Chris check your PM's
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« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2004, 12:38:23 PM »

Yeah, it is the car for sale in my signature.  When I was up there, in Jan.  It was when in the old shop(the one after the warehouse place).  I recall the white cobra, the white gt, a red vert, some 4-eyed GT, and the silver saleen, might have been some other cars.  That cobra was there when shop was at his house(the time before the warehouse) and yeah I think it did/does belong to a friend of his.  I do not think any actual work was being done to that cobra for a long time though, I recall it being for sale at one point.
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« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2004, 12:41:45 PM »

He jumped from the place where the Dyno, and Lift was, to out off henning Road to another place, then back to the house on Shake Rag.

I dont know if the Silver Saleen ever got finished or not. I did not see it sitting outside when I drove past the other day.
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« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2004, 12:44:46 PM »

I think it did, I recall a post or two about it on the Korral.  Of course text online can mean much of nothing, been told I do not even have a car a few times.  :tard:
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« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2004, 12:51:07 PM »

I have read allot of stuff in Text but it can not be back up in real life.

It was only there for like 3 yrs.
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« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2004, 03:18:59 PM »

Guess that means I will not be seeing the money brad owes me.
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« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2004, 06:11:07 PM »

Hello,

Dude that sucks, Brad was a good guy to work with. I have his kit and even sent my black saleen out to him once to fix some problems.

I hope Brad will talk to you soon the number I have no longer works.

Good luck
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« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2004, 08:14:08 PM »

yes..i truly got f'd over.  When I need money the most.

Brad sold me a motor.  It was never delivered.   I decided to sell and sold it to t76 on here.  Brad was supposed to send me the money through check or credit my card and never did.  So he got paid for it twice and I never receive any of my money back.  At the same time I got scammed by a fraudulent bank check for my turbo kit.

This all happens while I have medical issue that will require alot of extra money.

FUCK THE AUTO INDUSTRY AND PEOPLE INVOLVED
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« Reply #74 on: December 03, 2004, 07:23:09 AM »

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FUCK THE AUTO INDUSTRY AND PEOPLE INVOLVED


Yeap and to top it off T76 had some sort of issues with the motor too.  Shit like this is why I am so fed up with this "hobby"  I have lost almost as much money as I have in my car, could have bought a lot of other things and had more enjoyment out of them had I been wiser in my choices.
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