1000rwhp with $2 fuel? E85 is pretty cool stuff.

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Originally posted by 502efi
Plan on having a fresh filter after the car has been run for a bit- Mabey 2 hrs. from the fuel hitting the tank.  

I never had problems that fast. About a week before I had problems.

[Mustangous]

Originally posted by RI85GT
I am not a math genius or anything ...but if you burnt almost twice the amount of fuel ........wouldn't that negate the cheap price?

Well supposally the gas is a buck less and according to their  test it uses 15% more fuel, so you still saving a little. Not much to go out of you way for, but i think the big thing here is that with this fuel at the pump they hit over 1000 rwhp @ 30 psi. At 20 psi they were clost to 1000rwhp. So i guess you can consider this car a 1000 rwhp car with pump gas without paying race fuel price... :tu:

Originally posted by Trentk
Cons:
It takes more of this fuel to create the same energy as regular gasoline.  Therefore your car will use more fuel and you will see a decrease of approximately 10-15% in fuel economy.  To make big horsepower you will need more fuel pump and more injector.  
 

[502efi]

Originally posted by Linc's 84 351
I never had problems that fast. About a week before I had problems.

I guess it would vary from the amount of varnish in your fuel system. I'm going off of the time frame we saw and heard of when they went to the Ethanol based fuel in NY and CT a few years ago. OK, back to the good info now!!!:rockon:

[RossMacD]

Ok, I found an E85 station in Califorina...


but its in San Diego.  At least its my homies Ford taking care of the trees...

[Kryp2nitE]

Originally posted by gt89stang393
How would this work with a carb though?  Would you need an alcohol carb or would a standard gas carb work?

+1

[Snipe656]

Interesting so I could use this to clean an old fuel system that has been sitting for a long time ... ponders the possibilities

[383STROKER]

What exactly needs to be changed? Would a aluminum fuel cell work? Will braided lines work? Do you need to ditch any paper filters? What kind of O rings do you need?

[Steve_C]

Originally posted by 383STROKER
What exactly needs to be changed? Would a aluminum fuel cell work? Will braided lines work? Do you need to ditch any paper filters? What kind of O rings do you need?

If/when I run into a problem I'll let you know.

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Originally posted by Mustangous
according to their tests it uses 15% more fuel

That's baloney, I think 30% more is a little closer.

[Steve_C]

Originally posted by Linc's 84 351
That's baloney, I think 30% more is a little closer.

I didn't notice a huge difference in fuel consumption driving the car around town.  I burned 8 gal of fuel in 65 miles this past weekend.  Keep in mind that I drive it hard.  That may be a gal more than a normal weekend on avfuel.

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Originally posted by Karl Hungus
I didn't notice a huge difference in fuel consumption driving the car around town.  I burned 8 gal of fuel in 65 miles this past weekend.  Keep in mind that I drive it hard.  That may be a gal more than a normal weekend on avfuel.

That is pretty impressive.

[Trentk]

The official website says you will lose 15% fuel economy overall.

The damn point is you can run this $2 per gallon stuff and make big hp rather than running $8 per gallon C16 or C12.

[Mustangous]

Originally posted by Trentk
The official website says you will lose 15% fuel economy overall.

The damn point is you can run this $2 per gallon stuff and make big hp rather than running $8 per gallon C16 or C12.

100% agree.....:withstu: :rockon:

[Snipe656]

So do the cars not make that much power unless either running E85, C16, or C12?  How much do they lose when running the AvGas which I gather costs somewhere in the middle of those?

[Erik88GT]

I believe 160lb injectors (like those in your test) are alcohol safe? They have stainless internals or something. I know they also have green o-rings. I wonder if you'd have problems with other injectors?

And how do you coat the inside of a gas tank??
Teflon line isn't that expensive, either, is it?

I hope this catches on... I see there is a station about 40 miles from my house. I may have to check out if they really have it or not.

[snoopstang]

c-16 $8-$9 per gallon, methanol $1.99 per gallon but it takes twice as much, so I am saving 1/2 by using methanol on my new limited street turbo car... I also run methanol on my current drag car.. I love the stuff it runs way cooler... no cooling down between rounds, makes more power, ect...

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Originally posted by snoopstang
methanol $1.99 per gallon but it takes twice as much, so I am saving 1/2 by using methanol on my new limited street turbo car

And if you changed to Ethanol (ethyl alcohol) you would burn even less fuel.

[jaeger6]

Originally posted by Erik88GT
I believe 160lb injectors (like those in your test) are alcohol safe? They have stainless internals or something. I know they also have green o-rings. I wonder if you'd have problems with other injectors?

And how do you coat the inside of a gas tank??
Teflon line isn't that expensive, either, is it?

I have been running it for a year in a weekend driver.  The gas tank sat full of E85 all winter long.  I haven't seen any indicators that this fuel is causing damage to anything.  (I had the gas tank out this sping and every thing looked fine).  I haven't even need to change the fuel filter.  ( i probably should though ) IMO Teflon lines and coated gas tanks would be required only if you planned on building 100,000 mile car... very long term shit.

I have the standard old 42 lb green injectors and they don't seem to mind at all.  Don't forget that almost all the gasoline you purchase today has at least 10% ethanol in it already, so it's not like your car has never seen it before.

[mfpmax]

Originally posted by Erik88GT

I hope this catches on... I see there is a station about 40 miles from my house. I may have to check out if they really have
it or not.

It should've caught on years ago when car companies started making Flex Fuel vehicles. And as someone else stated, the local NASA branch is the only place that has E85...and CNG...and Propane.

[BlackMagic94]

Originally posted by Erik88GT
I believe 160lb injectors (like those in your test) are alcohol safe? They have stainless internals or something. I know they also have green o-rings. I wonder if you'd have problems with other injectors?

And how do you coat the inside of a gas tank??
Teflon line isn't that expensive, either, is it?

I hope this catches on... I see there is a station about 40 miles from my house. I may have to check out if they really have it or not.

Most industrial hose shops can supply you with either rubber telfon hose or braided steel telfon hose.  The cost is very close to the regular Earls stuff but last much longer, and best of all, they assemble it for you right at the shop so no more headaches from pushing fittings on braided hose.

Remember that all big injectors were meant for CNG or E85 if made for the factory.

[Unatural]

Hey, my dad works at the Cape (NASA), I wonder if he could get some of that stuff???

[mfpmax]

Originally posted by 20thAniv
Hey, my dad works at the Cape (NASA), I wonder if he could get some of that stuff???

Get me some too...hell...I probably could sneak out there with the High School robotics program.

[LowBoostinT76]

Screw at the pump, where do I get the stuff by the 55 gallon drum?

[Mustangous]

Originally posted by LowBoostinT76
Screw at the pump, where do I get the stuff by the 55 gallon drum?

Now we're talkin......

[jimbo65]

Well since we cant buy it here in California, I'm thinking about making my own... http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com