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how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« on: January 04, 2007, 03:45:55 PM »

My goal is a 1000 hp.  I'm starting with the usual bolt ons.  Cold air intake with tune, upgraded pulleys, and new exhaust.  This should get me up to around 600 - 625 according to Delk Performance.  I'm going to add a turbo kit from helion that will have to be modified a bit to work with the engine.  I'm hoping this will get me to around 800.  I'll have to add a high friction clutch for about another $1,000.  This will put me around 9 - 10 thousand dollars.  What other modifications will help the most for me to get the extra 200 hp for the most economical price.  I'm thinking a dual stage nitrous system, but i'm pretty sure there is a lot of things in the drivetrain and engine I'll have to upgrade to handle that king of power.  What am I looking at money wise for the drivetrain, engine, rear end upgradees, etc in addition to the upgrades listed previously.
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Re: how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2007, 04:17:12 PM »

 Spend Spend Spend
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Re: how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2007, 04:39:42 PM »

do a search on the ford gt twin turbo... made well over 1000 rwhp... the video is like 25 minutes long...very nice build.. in depth I believe the drivetrain between the two cars is virtually identical... just put a very efficient twin turbo kit on it and run race gas and get an extremely good tune you should make 1000 hp... watch out for the input shaft on the trans,rearend,driveshaft, make sure you have the frame tied up (subframes.. if it doesn't already have them) I'll try to find a link of the ford gt for you.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2007, 04:41:48 PM »

here check it out.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/181C8A6D-FA3E-4D8D-A3A1-F48D7D6B0801.htm
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Re: how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2007, 04:55:06 PM »

i dont think i would dump 20000 into a new cobra.  1000 hp in a 4000 lb car with a total cost of ?  $70,000??   I think i would have spent my 70K quite a bit differently if i wanted a 1000 hp car.  but, to keep the post on point, I would go to a whipple and add a bit of NOS on top with some significant tuning time and $ spent.  shouldnt cost you 20000 though.  should get you to 1000 hp. 
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Re: how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2007, 05:11:57 PM »

The best way you could spend $20,000 for 1000HP is to only use half of it (since that is all it should take), and then send me the remaining $10,000. I would say that would be the best way to spend $20,000.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2007, 05:21:33 PM »

I am quite curious as to what you pay a month to insure that thing?
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2007, 07:18:53 PM »

Thanks boosted.  I'll check on the insurance.  I ran it through my company that has four other autos on it and I'm not sure how it breaks out.  Lastly, I'm sure their are better ways to spend $80,000 dollars to get 1000 hp, but I had a specific goal in mind.  A new GT500 with 1000 hp.  I love that car.  Thanks for the advice everybody.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2007, 07:34:39 PM »

http://www.turbomustangs.com/smf/index.php?topic=74745.msg781397#msg781397
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Re: how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2007, 07:38:47 PM »

Just add one of the new KB blowers and the supporting hardware and you would be well on the way to 1000hp
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Re: how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2007, 12:56:53 AM »

Figure out what you want to do before you toss too much money at it.

If you are going to install a turbo you are going to get rid of that cold air intake and probably find out you need different exhaust.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2007, 12:57:44 PM »

I wouldn't lelt Delk Performance touch a $100 Festiva much less a Shelby. They put a Procharger an a friend's 01 cobra, it blew up on the test drive because the tune was so bad an they refused to do anything about, plus the installation was one of the worst I've seen.
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2007, 01:11:45 PM »

put 10000 into it and save the other 10000 to keep it running.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2007, 02:20:41 PM »

Oh and another thing... don't tell people up front you have 20k to spend... just say you want 1000hp and take it to someone that can do the job right and pay whatever it takes.. period.. if you blow that sucker up you'll wish you'd spent whatever it takes to make it perfect the first time.  You could have turbo kit built for probably 8k using ball bearing turbos.. have someone tune it should cost couldn't cost more than 1500.00 if they did 10 pulls to get it right... but hey that's just me... Oh and a spec stage 4+... may be a good clutch choice... take care buddy and don't kill  yourself.
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Re: how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2007, 03:33:59 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2007, 04:02:27 PM »

Murfreesboro, TN    Also, I asked the main guy there, John, what mods he would recommend to put on first to get the most hp while still maintaining driveability with the least amount of money.  He said the cold air intake with flash tune, pulley and axle back upgrade would get me up to 600-625 on their dyno.  He said the next thing he would do is to add a turbo kit which would get me all the horsepower I would ever need.  But, after reading some of these posts, the turbo kit would make the cold air intake and upper pulley upgrade meaningless.  So, should I forego the cold air intake and upper pulley upgrade to save $1700 and go straight for the turbo kit or should I keep the cold air and pulleys and add on some monster aftermarket blower?  I just don't want to have to add a cowl or other modification to my hood to make it all fit.  On a side note, I want to make this car a really nice show car with an astonishing amount of hp.  Probably a 4 to 5 year build.  I don't really have any interest at this point in racing it.  I have to much to lose if something goes wrong.  I don't know of any other performance centers within 200 miles of me that comes highly recommended.  The post about them doing the Cobra 1 owner wrong concerns me.  I'm definitely going to ask John for his side of the story before I let them change a thing on it.  Keep the posts coming.  Its giving me some great questions to ask the guys at Delk.
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2007, 04:26:48 PM »

how about throwing some nitrous on it and give the remaining $19,000 to charity.
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Re: how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2007, 06:09:40 PM »

Once you turbo it you will have to ditch the CAI and the pulley would be a waste as well, just do th eturbos in the begining or look into the 2.8  KB  I would go turbo but the KB is a beast
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Re: how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2007, 06:22:45 PM »

what kind of hp would the kb add
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2007, 06:36:42 PM »

what kind of hp would the kb add


Check here>>>>>>>http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337344
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2007, 06:55:38 PM »

I agree about the cold air kit and blower pulley are a waste... the blower pulley is probably only good for the stock blower, the cold air intake is useless if you go turbo... unless you can find a way to use it... I think the kb is a nice setup and would sound awesome but if it were mine I would just go all turbo... key tell you what go for a ride in an 03-04 cobra with a KB blower and the works.. Then go for a ride in a Turbo'd terminator.... That's all you need. I don't care what any numbers say... superchargers are hard on cranks,the belts slip you get boost spikes, they produce a lot of heat... after building the first Turbo car... I will never... ever go back.  I will guarantee most guys would agree with me on that last statement too. Plus from my own personal experience.. and I have seen it on other cars too... they get better gas mileage too which to me is more favorable for a driver situation and with a turbo you can get away with running a taller rear gear ratio which means... install some race axles, solid pinion collar, and re-enforce the torque boxes... and drive it. The difference between you breaking things and not breaking things will be how you drive it and if it hooks... with a street tire you will never break it.. it will never hook... you'll be doing 100mph.. burnouts. lol!!! and passing hayabusas on the freeway... That's just my opinion.
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2007, 06:57:24 PM »

I believe a roots style blower offers similar performance as a turbo but just not quite as much torque.  Is this right?

If you could bolt something like that on and get that much power I would do it.

I agree with boosted, I am a true believer in turbos.
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2007, 07:18:34 PM »

Well I had a kb on my coupe and it worked great but the gas mileage was crap even if I just drove it without getting on it and I had to mix 110 with 93 because it generated so much heat... I know your  car is intercooled from the factory but I just was really bored with the whole .... I want more power process... With a turbo it works like this... step one turn up boost controller, step two retune computer...  With a supercharger... change blower pulley, change belt, retune computer, retighten belt..., belt still slips, overtighten.... belt breaks... etc... Basically I got sick and tired of messing with belts and pulleys... the torque was amazing yes and it was a ton of fun on the streets but at the track it pissed me of... it has so much more instantaneous low low torque... it would just snap the tires loose ever gear and therefore it was running on drag radials with a 4.10 gear 8.55 @93mph... with .508 light and a 2.2 60 ft... It was faster all motor it went 8.47 @ 83mph stock with a 3.73 gear and dirt track tires... and the way the KB came on so fast... it made tuning it a little different because I had to pull out timing right away... it was just a huge pain in the butt and a total waste of money. When I see guys on here that are making around 600rwhp and get around 20mpg.... I'm sold!!! hope it helps.
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Re: how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2007, 07:53:21 PM »

Alright, 100% for turbo, 0% for KB.  I have to have Delk cancel my order for the CAI, etc and put that money toward a turbo kit.  Hopefully, helion will be open to using my car as a template unless they already have one in the works that will fit.  What do you think the difference in labor and parts will be between the KB and a turbo.  And who makes the best turbos in your opinions.
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Re: how to best spend $20,000 on mods for new shelbygt500
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2007, 08:01:49 PM »

 Spend on the turbo kit.

How much is the KB?

If you arent doing it yourself, the labor is what is going to kill you.

Parts for a turbo kit and welder=several thousand,

drilling a 1/4" hole in your thumb at 4am before you drive two hours to your tuner=painful,

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